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deafTunes12308-02 06:54 AMI don't think that search is giving the accurate info. I know at least 10 Amway guys by name in my neighbor hood (you can guess how many... many... times I've been tortured) and none of their names is appearing. May be it is giving the names of those silver or what ever their hierarchy is.

Its a good info to catch and hopefully its useful.

Guys! This is getting interesting. Guess what I found!! Now you can find out the names of your local friendly Amway Independent Business owners!!!

Go to https://www.amway.com/Shop/Registration/CustomerRegistration.aspx?Country=US

Scroll down to the section titled "Benefits of Being Affiliated with an Independent Business Owner", select "Show me a list of IBOs in my area that I can select from".... put your zip code and voila!!!!

I put my own zipcode 94536, and most of the names are desi. Confirms my suspicion that there are more desi's sucked into this than........

Now post what you find in your area!



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krish200501-16 06:18 PMhttp://www.murthy.com/news/n_repatt.html dated March 2006

I discussed the matter of the Consular section requiring end-user client (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/#) letters. Many H1B employers and employees, as well as several AILA attorneys, have approached me as well as the Murthy Law Firm, inquiring about this. The matter deals with the fairly recent requests for letters from supervisors of the end-user clients. These requests require the end users to outline the nature of the job to be performed by the H1B visa candidate, provide details of where the candidate will work, the length of the project, and the need for a specific H1B employee by name and other details. Unfortunately, most end-user clients are not willing to comply with such an onerous request. The very reason for the end-user client to hire an outside consulting company is to minimize the burden of administrative or HR responsibilities. Moreover, the law does not require such detailed letters for the issuance of H1B visas.
�MurthyDotCom
I respectfully summarized the position of many of you, our clients or those using candidates who apply for the H1B visa at Chennai, as follows.

End-user clients generally will not issue letters to the consulate, as they do not wish to get involved with the H1B process. The very nature of the employment relationship, when hiring through consulting companies, is to avoid or minimize the work related to hiring candidates.
Employers who sign the H1B documents do so under penalty of perjury and must pay the required prevailing wage, irrespective of whether they have assignments for the H1B candidates. The employer may decide to send the candidate back to his/her home country if enough assignments cannot be found.
Legacy INS (now USCIS) raised many similar issues, in the early- to mid-1990s, regarding the length and nature of the projects in the U.S., timetable of assignments, and the H1B employer�s ability to pay the required prevailing wage. Senior Legacy INS officials from headquarters in Washington DC addressed the concerns of those examiners by pointing out that the law does not permit them to investigate a U.S. employer�s ability to hire H1B employees. The USCIS is bound by memos and policy guidance of the Legacy INS. After that memo, Legacy INS stopped issuing lengthy RFEs on these matters.
The law does not require any such letters by end-user clients for the issuance of the H1B visas to the visa applicants.
Delays in the issuance of H1B visas cause many of the employers considerable financial (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/#) loss and postpone the implementation of projects. This results in the additional loss of revenues and credibility with their clients, due to their inability to produce in a timely fashion the required specialty-worker candidates.


Thanks for the post. Is there such a requirement when there is a renewal of H1B ?



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ebizash07-29 05:50 PMAny other funny stories.

Seems like you are having lot of fun reading this thread!! You should pay some sort of entertainment tax to IV for this. :D :D



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Keeme05-12 03:25 PMI think this forum is the wrong place to discuss any of this. The thread must be deleted.

I'm sorry, forgot to say ' GOOD BYE" when you declared 3 weeks back - you won't visit IV site any more and wanted to denounce your IV membership.

May I ask, what made you to change your mind ?

Dear, you won't get a good farewell party here ! Pl help youself !

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dilipcr06-16 02:22 PMGuys,

Please stop responding to Dilip. He is feeding of our frustrations. If he was still retrogressed he would be singing a different tune but never mind. Every response we give him makes him feel pleasure at our plight. To tell you the truth our plight is not bad. We just like to think it is. We have AC21 option. Remember when you could not file I485 how much you coveted that one option. If the employer withdraws I-140 and we have to file MTR so be it. People come out of it unscathed. It is still a low probability event. Take the bull by the horns and you will come out stronger. Even when you get your GC life's problems will not go away. We still have to fight for a better job, better pay, better quality of living and then we will not have the excuses we have now (Thats how Dilips of the USA are made).

So lets take pride in ourself, use our options wisely and ignore people like Dilip. He is just pampering him shattered pride by telling himself we cannot get the salary he wants due to H1b , outsourcing .... . He is not worth it.

I dont care if you consider me a guy taking pleasure in your plight. Remember I dont get anything out of it. I truly like your attitude to take the bull by the horns and the resolve to come out even stronger. That is the attitude that would take you a long way. Trust me and all the best.



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pmat06-12 09:30 AM2nd best engineering college in Rajasthan? There were 25 states in India , now including IITs, & NITs and BITS, that would make it, atleast 30 colleges in India which are better than yours. And here we are just talking of engineering colleges. Not even mentioned about medical or others. So yours would be like probably 50th best college in India. That is certainly not the best and brightest. I am from top 10 engineering colleges of India at the time.

My brother is a gold medalist in CS from India's top NIT and has done MS here from top 10 universities. My wife has also done MS from here (top 20 school) with a good GPA.

So give up ur GC now for recapture and go back! The better and brighter are waiting for it behind you.

What do you mean by not being a public burden? You will still eat up a job , that can be retained for India's best and brightest, in case you do return due to economy or healthcare factors here.

Dude... he is talking about the second best engineering college in India that is located in Rajasthan.. aka - BITS Pilani (my guess).

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belmontboy08-15 04:17 PMWelcome to our troubles Mr SRK.

Nobody cared for hapless NRI's all these days.
One fine day, Mr SRK gets the treatment, and suddenly everybody starts jumping.

Nice to see every Brown skinned being treated the same way.



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Rohan9907-30 04:07 PMcan you share the phone number and address of that Away family?:) May be for a change lot of people from this thread may want to meet this Away person. :rolleyes:


Met this dude once in a grocery store, he and his hot wife gave me the amway speil. I said listen buddy give me a time to visit your house and number. I called him and we played phone tag, one day I called and his wife picked up, i ASKED IF i could come, she was hesitant and said he was out of state for a conference but I convinced her that it's ok. When I arrived I brought a bottle of wine and then she was all over me in 5 mins. Sigh what a wonderful time....

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AirWaterandGC05-11 03:44 PMThanks for the response. Govt sends a check for each child every month ! Thats too good to be true. How much is the check for.

pmt = payment

Government sends you a check every month for each child you have.

Here is an excellent calculator to estimate your Canadian income taxes.

http://www.ey.com/GLOBAL/content.nsf/Canada/Tax_-_Calculators_-_2006_Personal_Tax

Canada has something called RRSP which works the same way as a 401 K plan. However in an RRSP you can actually withdraw funds without penalty upto 50% of your account for purchasing your fiorst home ( In US you can only take loan not wiothdrawl).

Also Canada doesnt allow jopint filing of taxes for married couples. Each spouse has to individually file taxes per my understanding.



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mirage03-27 03:47 PMNeelu,
Thanks for Sharing. I watch Indian Politics very very closely, but haven't heard of him till today, Indian media is too obsessed with Rahul Gandhi and Sarkozy. They don't have time for real people...
My vote is for Dr. Jaya Prakash Narayan. He has done good things as a doctor and then as a collector in AP.

Of course he stands no chance, but I think he started a movement (grassroots) - hopefully it is the beginning of some positive change.

Check out his speech at a Mumbai university.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4xFCdOYTv4 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6s1R9iBjw - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ZHak1lEr8 - Part 3

Cheers.

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msp197602-13 03:07 PMThe 7% is a maximum.

They do not have to go to 7% if they don't want to. However; they can't go over it; if there is more demand then supply.


What about paragraph 5 that I have posted up somewhere ???
Does that allow the 7% limit to be exceeded or not ?

they can't go over it; if there is more demand then supply.
That is why we need more supply.....Once supply is more they can go over 7%...



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Ramba03-31 06:02 PMA person who assists in the murder of people whom he has taken an oath to protect, cannot be really thinking about the country or for its development. By saying that HE is responsible for the development is clearly under estimating the capabilities of the gujrati people. The gujratis and rajasthanis are leaders in creating wealth and they did that for thousands of years successfully with world's envy before this ugly Indian came into picture. With your logic fodder eating Lalu is the smartest politician ever born....remember his $20Billion revenue he is bringing in from railways....never heard of from any sector...leave alone the ever losing railways...the only thing lalu can be given credit for is...not stopping the elite civil services managing directors and the academia (IIM, ISB) from doing their work...which they have been trying to for several decades....so I dont think the theory is right that one person (call him black spot of India) had done something....when each individual in the state is born with the blood which carries enterpreneurship.....kudos to all gujaratis....

Well said. It is similar to Bill Clinton takes credit for revolution in IT area. It is all time. Gujarat prospered becuse of successful bussiness minded people. Growth was aided by high demand for export. I agree with you that though a guy has a great leadership skills, commanding speech, great administartive and management skills, if he commited/aided the crime, he has no right to hold the office. See the Alska Senator..He was one of the most successful politician and elected many times from alska for Senate. Now he is in jail at his very old age, just becuse he got money from oil comapines to renovate his house.

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Aah_GC07-11 06:14 PMBud,

TN is just a modified H1B. You need to have an employer, your wife will be on a TD and worse, you gotta renew it every year across the border.



You need not give up your American Dream. Once you get your Canadian Citizenship, you can work in US indefinetly with TN visa.



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gc_chahiye06-27 10:46 PMSorry my number was wrong...

Its not 80,000 , it is 129,973.. That is also as of March 2007..

look at link http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/permstats407.pdf

8000 Indians (almost the complete 7% ANNUAL limit for I485) were PERM certified in the first quarter of fiscal 2007 (oct-dec 2006) itself! No wonder we have big backlogs for India...

An older stat, for the first year of PERM (march-05 to march-06):
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_relper.html
shows that 80K cases were filed, and of these 36K certified. Assuming of the 23K rejections 14K were appealed and then got through, that means only 50K PERM approvals in the whole year. As dates retrogress in the future, and slowly start moving again, they should hopefuly cross this march-2005 to march-2006 timeframe fairly fast... Some of these I140s would have gotten denied, some of these cases possibly abandoned (no substitution also now!), and some I485s would get caught in namechecks and what not..

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eb3India11-11 09:10 PMI completely agree that Substitute labor is being used is the wrong sense. My husband is now in his 7th year of H1B and I am still on H4.

At the same time our friend who came in 2005 to USA through an Indian company joined Rapidigm in 2005, received a 1999 priority date Labor and received his Green card (& for his wife too) in 8 months time.

This iextremely unfair means of acquiring GC and should be blocked legally.Meanwhile Rapidigm has been acquired by Fujitsu .

simple question, given an opportunity, where someone offer you sub labour with PD prior to 2001 does any one here reject the offer, this is a classic story of "ship of crabs from ...."

we have much bigger fish to fry than worry about few smart crabs getting out of ship.

sub labour is not illegal nor it is a loop hole, itz a simple deal between employer and employee for their own benifit.

letz focus our effort on making new congresss and senate understand our situation and provide some relife thru bills such as SKILL.



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gc4me02-13 12:16 PMimmigration-law.com posted country wise EB visa allocation for the year of 2005. For example, Nepal used only 70 EB3 visas. Whereas country limit is 7%. In that case how EB3 Nepal is retrogressed?

Can we sue USCIS? Let's discuss.
In that case, let's hire an attorney.

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perm2gc10-24 11:06 AMIf you join Microsoft , you might get less salary but they pay your insurance 100%. Is microsoft selling insurance to you?? its just a benefit/perk being an employee of microsoft.

same thing here too... pre-approved labor is just a perk/benefit offered by employer to hire you with less salary. so if you think you sacrificed your salary to get to cut the line for getting GC then you are thinking right.if not please stop thinking like socialist.

It all about money and business brother.
We have so much discussion on this topic in many threads but i dont know why people want to discuss samething again and again.

We know LC substituion is good for few and worst for many...

Admins can you please close the thread...



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longq02-19 05:32 PMWhat you are talking here is the Eb1-EA category.. and not the general EB1 category..

The EB1 Category is primarily meant for inter company transfers. Most of the people who qualify to get GC under this category come to US through the inter company transfer route and are primarily on L1-A work visa. Folks under L1-A do not require a labor certification and directly file I-140 /485 unlike people who come on L1-b visa which is also inter company transfer and requires a person to file a labor certification in US and then file GC under Eb2 or Eb3 as the case may be.

It�s surprising that Eb1 is current for India. Going by the facts.. the top 3 IT companies had shipped most of their project folks infact every other person to US under L1-A in the last few years when H1-b was under scrutiny for these companies. Most of these people who came under L1-A should have applied for GC under Eb1 which should have retrogressed the dates for EB1 also. The only logical reason for this that these companies are being very selective in doing GC now unlike in the past when a lot of people had got GC under this category.. and the date for EB1 for India had retrogressed in beginning of 2006..

That apart the other reason why this category is current is that most of the staffing companies aka.. body shoppers cannot use this route to get people to US.. because they need to have full-fledged profitable operations overseas�. and the person being sponsored should have atleast worked for 365 days outside US for the company. The consulates do a complete check before giving an authorization under L1-A or L1-B category..

EB1-Multinational executives also mostly abused catagory. Due to this, the demand for EB1 is very much higer than EB2. See the statisctics 2005, DOS issed 66000 EB1 in 2005 compare to 44000 EB2. If any one things multinational executives are MBA or highly skilled, it is completly wrong. EB1-Mexico is much much higher than EB2-Mexico. Top IT companies in India will not sponser any GC except one or two guys. Like L1 be a short cut for H1, EB1 is shortcut for EB3 & EB2 and to avoid LC. There may be restarunt managers got GC thro EB1. I know one guy got GC thro EB1-Multinational manager thro a small consulting firm having less employees in both India and USA.



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GCmuddu_H1BVaddu09-05 11:43 AMShame on YOU, not me, you have just created a new ID just to talk about Andhra CM who is dead. Shame on YOU for hiding your real face while talking caste based crap, no wonder India is still like that. Again stop the bull crap of caste based fighting, useless fellow. You don't want people to see your real face and you are talking crap with a different ID. You are a cheat with double standards.

Shame on you...donga ki donga thodu.( cooperation between thiefs)



geve11-09 09:17 AMYou are right my friend. In fact you explained every thing. Your concerns are valid. However as you said you are overreacting. In other words you are stretching your strengths.

You said 4 of them are your friends. By giving complaint on company i do not know what is the outcome. Can also effect the approved GC candidates.

There is fine line between DHARMAM AND NYAYAM. Personnally i do not think they did wrong. Neither the company nor the candidates. They just used the available system.

We can argue or put our opinion to the law makers. One of my friend who came along with me on the same flight, same day from india throught same company can apply for citizenship next year.

where as me

EB3 -- May 2003
I-140 approved Mar 2006

We are all on same page. Forget about what happened to others. Think what we can do? I am not trying to teach, just trying to coll you down.



485Mbe400109-23 05:38 PMYou can always edit your letter with comments that suit your case. The objective is to send a letter to support the idea. They they work out the details if and when they discuss it.

OK... I support the initiative because it will remove some people ahead of me in line. However, I bought a house last week with 3% downpayment on FHA loan, and now how can I justify writing an email with the draft that urges for GCs only for those who paid 20% downpayment?

Can you give me some thoughts on this so that I can make my selfish mind to agree on writing this email to congress?